Your monument shall be my gentle verse
That eyes not yet created shall o'er read
And tongues to be, your being, shall rehearse
When all the breathers of your world are dead
You still shall live, such virtue hath my pen
Where breath most breathes - in mouths of men

William Shakespeare (1564-1616)

Thursday 28 February 2019

Edward Ginn of Lincoln died 1890

Edward was son of James in my last post.  He moved around a fair bit, and by 1840 was living in Stamford in Lincolnshire and working as an umbrella maker.  He married Jane Carlin (who was Irish) at All Saints Stamford (below) that year.




No children of this marriage are known.   The couple were running  what the Census clerk cheerily called a "lodging house for vagrants" at Scotgate in Stamford in 1851 - Edward was a Hawker, as were many of his lodgers.  It seems likely that Jane died in Grantham in 1856

In 1858 Edward married (for a second time) at Hitchin in Hertfordshire.  His bride was an Emma Porter (from Lincolnshire) and the couple moved back to that county.  They passed through the Spalding district, Boston and clearly moved around, but they settled in Lincoln.

Edward Ginn was a Dealer/Broker in Lincoln.  Originally in Waterside South, by the early 1870s the couple settled at 32 Cheviot Street.   He dealt in a mixture of things, but chiefly China/Glass and Furniture.  While at time he flirted with insolvency, in general he did quite well for himself, the couple had a maid.



Edward died in 1890 in Lincoln and left a will.  Emma's death is unclear

Edward and Emma had eight children viz

Edward - he tried his hand at the services - joining the Navy as a "ship's boy" in 1877 aged 16.  He spent some months on HMS St Vincent that year (built in 1815) a training ship shown below - she was stationed at Portsmouth




He and the Navy did not get on and he, or rather his Dad, bought him out soon after.  Undaunted, he then joined the Royal Horse Artillery as a Driver, where he stayed for three years see below, leaving in 1881.  He was dark haired, rather short with grey eyes.



In 1883 he married Sarah Jane Dove in Lincoln. They had three children, Edward, William (died infancy) and Gertrude.  Edward snr sadly died in 1896 aged 35.  Sarah remarried in 1904.  A correspondent (descendant of Edward's sister)  has suggested that what remained of this family emigrated to Canada

Sarah Ellen - married John Charles Quinlan at Lincoln in 1889

James - clearly died infancy

Emma - died infancy

Esther - alive in 1891 aged 21

Albert - sadly died in 1894 aged 21.  Likely tuberculosis

Florence - alive 1891 aged 16.  I think she subsequently married someone surname Taylor

Annie - alive 1891 aged 14

James Ginn of Stocking Pelham died c. 1828


James Ginn was son of John Ginn of Farnham (see post of 23rd March 2013 ) and was a Labourer.  DNA links discovered in October 2022 proved the relationship beyond doubt.  James moved to Stocking Pelham (where his cousin Cornelius lived) very early on after his marriage.  Both he and his half brother William seem to have been quite close to the elderly Cornelius (for Cornelius see post of 20th September 2012)

The reason for moving to Stocking Pelham was presumably work.  His father had died when James was very young, and his mother remarried.  I suspect that the childless Cornelius was asked to help out a bit.  Perhaps Uncle Cornelius helped in finding James work and there is some suggestion that he may have given James a basic training in carpentry (see below).  

James married Esther/Hester Rogers (dtr of John) at Stocking Pelham in 1805, the year of the Battle of Trafalgar.  The witnesses to the wedding included his half-brother William, who had also moved to that village temporarily.




James stayed in the Pelhams, unlike his half-brother, but he certainly did not initially gain settlement.  As seen Farnham was no more than a hamlet, and a lot of people who were officially settled there lived elsewhere.  See the Overseer’s Book.  This shows that the Overseer paid the rent for James's cottage to a Daniel Parker (apparently a friend of the Ginns of Farnham) who was not James' landlord who presumably passed this on.  Thi was in 1808, and James seems to have gained settlement in Stocking Pelham  for the purpose of the poor laws soon after.

I know very little about James, not even exactly where he lived and when exactly he died.  The Stocking Pelham register has no trace of him, but he seems likely to be the James Ginn (who in one record was described as a carpenter - perhaps doing carpentry work on some building or other) who died at Sawbridgeworth near Bishops Stortford in 1828.  We know that he died in about that year.

In 1837 his widow Esther married at Stocking Pelham.  The entry tells us that Esther Ginn "of full age, widow" nee Rogers, married John Wooten, a widower and local labourer.

James and Hester had at least eight children, likely nine (a gap in the register) viz


James jnr - something of a mystery man.  He was living at the home of John Wooten in 1851, who described him as his son-in-law, which initially confused me, but of course that term meant stepson in that period.  James never married . James had a passable education, as he was a Schoolteacher, and for a great many years was Stocking Pelham’s parish clerk.  He died in 1889.  He was stated to be 83; he was 82.


John - Married Mary King at Little Hormead in 1832 and stayed in the Hormeads.  He lived in the area called Darsell's  (Hobbs Farm) in 1851.  Ironically, he lived next door to a William Ginn (from the Hormeads) who was his very distant cousin (the branches had separated some 300 years before).  I have wondered if they ever discussed their joint surname over the garden fence - "you don't think we're related do you Bill?". John and Mary only ever had one child - Jane  - who was born in 1833 at Little Hormead.  In 1852 this Jane married a George Aldridge at Braughing.  So this Ginn family had come full circle.  Not only back in Herts, but back in Braughing where they started from.  John died in 1888 and Mary died in 1893.

Edward  -see next post 

Elizabeth - married James Whybird at Stocking Pelham in 1846

Hester - married Richard Marlow at Manuden, Essex in 1836

Sarah - married William Brett at Manuden,  Essex in 1841 - "a minor",  she was 16

Ann and Mary - died infancy