Your monument shall be my gentle verse
That eyes not yet created shall o'er read
And tongues to be, your being, shall rehearse
When all the breathers of your world are dead
You still shall live, such virtue hath my pen
Where breath most breathes - in mouths of men

William Shakespeare (1564-1616)

Thursday, 9 April 2020

George Ginn of Ware died 1863

George Ginn was son of Francis in my post of  23rd February 2014 and brother to Frank and William in my last two posts .  He was a Labourer in Hoddesdon for much of his early life, marrying Eliza Saxon at Bengeo, Hertford in 1825.


In 1831 there was a dramatic change, as he became the landlord of the "Angel" pub in Star Lane, Ware, which is still there and I have passed by a few times and which is shown below




George and Eliza passed their married life at the pub, sadly I cannot find any Victorian period photographs of it. I have not researched the couple in any detail.  George died in 1863 aged 62.  Eliza died in 1871 leaving a will with probate to her daughter Eliza Ann.

George and Eliza had eleven children-

Eliza - a spinster, she lived in Ware and died there in 1903 at 78

John - married Ellen Baxter at St Pancras in 1854.  They lived in London and there were at least six children

Ann - married Charles Medlock at St Marylebone in 1866 and died in Hampstead in 1893.

Mary - married James Crane  at Hunsdon in 1851.  Descendants have been in touch.

Charlotte - married John Hull at Paddington in 1859

George - married Mary Charlton at Lambeth in 1870  They lived in Ware and had four children.

Elizabeth - married Edward Bird at St Marylebone in 1861

Joshua James - married Annie Anderson at Ware in 1869.  They lived in Ware and had five children.

William - died infancy.

Sarah - born in 1828 is untraced for sure, but possibly in St Marylebone in 1851 as a servant

Francis Robert - died in infancy




William Ginn of Hoddesdon died 1840

William here was the brother of Frank in my last post and second son of Francis snr in my post of  23rd February 2014.

I know little about him.  He was a Labourer and married Martha Sams, likely sister of Elizabeth (sisters marrying brothers) at Great Amwell Church in 1817.


Great Amwell adjoins the parish of  Broxbourne, and although I know that William and Martha (like the majority of this part of the family) lived in Hoddesdon which was a substantial community, Hoddesdon did not have it's own church until the 1840s, so William and Martha mixed and matched churches.

In 1801 the census shows Hoddesdon having about 1200 residents, but it grew greatly thereafter, there were many inns, it was on the coaching route and by 1840 Broxbourne had the railway.  In 1835, to show its gathering importance the Clock Tower was built and still stands (I used to live in Hoddesdon) in the Market Square.


Martha sadly died in 1833, giving birth to the daughter named after her.  William did in 1840, he was just 47 himself and although they would have been supported by the family network around them, the children did well to get by, keep out of trouble and stay out of the workhouse.

William and Martha had five children

Mary Ann - married Reuben Hale at Broxbourne in 1840

Caroline - she was living in Ware in 1851 when she was 30.  It is believed that she married in later life.

Elizabeth  - was born in 1822 and is untraced

William - who I often call "the Engineer" because although he worked in a brewery for a good while, he was often later referred to as an "engineman" or "engineer".   He married three times - Emma Rawlins at Ware in 1848: they had three known children and then she died in 1858 after which Bill married Emily Kent at Hertford that same year.  They then had three further children and Emily sadly died aged 30 in Bengeo in 1863 aged 30.  He remarried the widow Jane Maskell (nee Bolton) at Bengeo in 1864 and there were yet three more children.  

Bill lived in Hoddesdon from a lad, working for Christie's Brewery there (below) but in 1851 there was an unfortunate incident where he was convicted of stealing a visiting workman's tools and they parted company.


In 1851 he was lodging in Hertford and stayed there and in Bengeo thereafter.  He died in Bengeo in 1872 aged 47 and Jane remarried a William Bradford in 1874.

Martha Emma - was born as her mother died in 1833, was a servant in Hackney in 1851 and married George Leighton at Stanstead Abbots near Hoddesdon in 1869.  That same year they emigrated on the SS City of New York to New York.



Martha and George had children and descendants have been in touch.  She died in Galesburg, Knox County Illinois in 1922 aged 89.



Monday, 6 April 2020

Francis Ginn of Hoddesdon died 1840

Francis Ginn was the son of Francis in my post of  23rd February 2014.  I know very little about him as I tend not to research much post 1800, leaving it to descendants.

What I do know is that he was a Labourer, who partly worked in the Brewing trade and partly in milling, the latter likely at Broxbourne Water Mill  (below) where his great uncle John had worked years before.




He married Elizabeth Bastefield Sams at the lovely church at Bengeo (Hertford) in 1818 and they had a large family 




- having an association both with Hoddesdon and neighbouring Great Amwell.

Francis died in 1840 aged 57.  Elizabeth soldiered on for a long time, dying in 1879.

They had eight children-

Ann - she married Lestock Hammond at St George's Hanover Square, London in 1839.  They lived in the Ware and had no less than thirteen children, Ann dying in 1899 aged 79 and Lestock at "The White House" Ware in 1905.  It is only through her that Francis and Elizabeth likely have descendants.

Elizabeth Mary - she stayed locally and died in Ware, a spinster, in 1870 aged 44.

Francis - Frank was a Cellarman, working in the pubs in Hoddesdon.  Never married.  He is mentioned a number of times in the records. He was at Great Amwell in 1851.  He died in 1886 aged 63 leaving a will with executorship to sister Sarah



Old Hoddesdon and its pubs




Susanna - born in 1824 and untraced

Eliza - died a spinster in 1884 aged 53- left a will with executorship to brother Frank

John Joseph - he was also in the brewing trade. 




 He married Mary Ann Ketcher (widow) at Broxbourne in 1858 when he was 25.  They did not have any issue.  Mary Ann died in 1866 (will - executorship to her husband and Frank Ginn).  John Joseph  died in 1869 aged 33 (likely TB) leaving executorship of his will to brother Frank

Emma Harriet - died in infancy

Sarah - married Charles Huttlestone in 1879 when she was 50.  She was a widow in 1886.



So,, in short - descendants of Francis and Elizabeth are only possible though Ann and possibly Susanna