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That eyes not yet created shall o'er read
And tongues to be, your being, shall rehearse
When all the breathers of your world are dead
You still shall live, such virtue hath my pen
Where breath most breathes - in mouths of men

William Shakespeare (1564-1616)

Monday, 25 June 2012

Robert Ginn of Anstey d. 1587

Robert Ginn was the eldest surviving son of his father and the heir to "Passmers".  He was born in about 1500 and married (she seems to have been his only wife) Agnes in about 1525.  I do not know Agnes' maiden name, the marriage predating parish registers, but there is a chance, just a chance, that her maiden name was Moss, as the Moss family of Clavering are known to have played some part in Robert's early married life.

Robert was a prosperous Yeoman farmer, the gold and silver items mentioned in his will marking him out among the branches of the Ginn family.


Robert Ginn was a busy man.  He was heavily involved in parish and county affairs.  I am sure that he was often one of the Churchwardens for Anstey, though records have not survived.  He was certainly frequently chosen to sit on the juries at the Quarter Sessions, and often the Grand Jury at the Assizes.  This required him to travel about Eastern Hertfordshire, and he came into contact with many other Yeoman families.   This seems to have acted as a source of spouses for his children as did his probable frequent journeys to market, both in Herts and Essex.

King Henry the 8th died in 1547. His heir, Edward the 6th , was a dedicated Protestant, while Henry's eldest daughter Mary was a Catholic and wanted England to return to that faith.  

Many catholic priests of the time had had unofficial mistresses, and when King Edward allowed them to marry many did so, including the Vicar of Therfield, a few miles from Anstey.  Unfortunately Edward built a legacy of hate among catholics, having many of them burned at the stake and when he died in 1553 there was a backlash.  The new Queen Mary, "Bloody Mary" as she was known earned that name by having many protestants tortured and put to death .

Mary also had the marriages of the priests declared invalid and sought to the have the said priests discharged from their livings.  In 1555 there was a local revolt against the Vicar of Therfield and various local farmers were brought to the Court of Star Chamber where local yeomen and gentlemen, including Robert Ginn were put to jury service.  He lived through turbulent times.

Robert built on the lands owned by his father and in particular purchased freehold land, this leading him in Cussan's Survey of 1562 to be noted as one of the two "Principal Freeholders" of Anstey.





Robert Ginn died in 1587 leaving a will ( Essex Record Office with his original signature above), the year before the abortive attack of the Spanish Armada - he must have been well into his 80s.  Agnes lived on, helping to equip the local militia at the time of the Spanish Armada with the very halberd that Henry Ginn had supplied in 1539, such family weapons often being treasured among yeomen.

Agnes died in 1589, aged nearly 90 on my calculation.  She has my undying gratitude as the provider of a huge amount of information on the Ginn family.  Her will (Essex Record Office) suggests that she was a formidable woman!

Robert and Agnes had a huge family of which:

Henry  - was the heir and will be dealt with in a later post

Robert - moved to Huntingdonshire and founded the Ginn/Genn family of Ely.  See post of 7th July 2012

Katherine - married her cousin John Ginn of Aston.  See post of  29th July 2012

Ellen  - married James King in 1554.  They have a significant role in the Ginn story and my early research.

I traced this couple to Great Chishall in Essex, the Kings were major yeomen farmers of the Essex/Hertfordshire borders and I know a lot about them.  James King snr died in the summer of 1576 (he was abiout 50) and left a will.  His son James jnr was to go to Cambridge University and the father left money for his keep.

James was also worried about his wife for Ellen was pregnant.  He left the unborn child money and appointed his brother in laws Henry and Robert Ginn Overseers of the will.

The situation got worse, because in December 1576 Ellen was to have the child, and she obviously knew it was likely she would die and made a will.  She wanted a daughter (she had many sons) and left gowns and petticoats to the unborn child which sadly turned out to be another son, Simeon-  the child survived, the mother died.  Ellen would have been in her early 40s.  Of her younger children she made Arthur Ginn her brother the guardian of her son Arthur, her father Robert guardian of her daughter Alice and her brother Robert of the unborn child, namely Simeon.  The whole thing was tragic.


The Ginns did indeed honour the wish and put James King jnr into Cambridge (he is recorded in Cambridge University records as James Ginn!) but it  got more tragic in the later years of Queen Elizabeth' s reign because James King jnr sued the Anstey Ginns and Robert Ginn who was by this time in Huntingdonshire.  In fact this court case from 1588 (C3/226/67) which went on over several years (we do not know the result) alleged that the Ginns had misappropriated some of the King money and provided me with fascinating research clues.

For the record and King researchers (the Great Chishall records do not survive for before 1583) James King jnr was later a yeoman of Great Chishall in Essex and left a will, Ginn wills show that Arthur King was in Barkway in Herts in 1630 and that his brother Thomas was in Langey in Essex that same year.  Simeon supposedly went to Huntingdonshire and Alice is untraced.

Dorothy - first married a John Cannon at Ware in 1566.  He barely lived a couple of months, dying that same year.  She then wore "widow's weeds" for a great many years having returned home.  In 1585, she married the cleric Francis Lindsell at Anstey.  Lindsell had entered Cambridge University in 1568 and obtained his degree in 1572 and his Masters in 1575.  He was made Deacon of Peterborough Cathedral and then almost immediately made the Rector of  Strethall in Essex, some 7 miles from Anstey in late 1575.  He was clearly a widower when he married Dorothy.  Tiny Strethall has a lovely Saxon Church.


In 1585 it was Lindsell who drew up his father in law Robert Ginn's will (he signs as "Francis Lindsell the writer" (below)


Lindsell certainly had a son Thomas (also a cleric) but it seems doubtful that it could have been by Dorothy.  Francis was a bit of a rebel as he appears in church disciplinary records and he would not have had an easy time of it in Protestant Elizabethan England, as the Lord of the Manor of Strethall was from a well known Catholic family.  Francis did not take immorality lightly, as there is a record that in early 1607 he sacked his servant  Robert Parker who had begat a child with another servant of his (likely the maid) Agnes Ewens.  To avoid the child being chargeable to the parish under the Poor laws, he took Robert's father John to the Quarter Sessions to get him to pay for the child.

Lindsell was the Rector of Strethall for an amazing 63 years, dying as the incumbant in 1638 which on my guess would have put him in his late 80s.  The Strethall Registers have not suvived for this period, so I do not know what happened to Dorothy


Margaret - died a maid in 1580,  In his will of 1587 her father left one of his grand daughters  "the greatest hutch [clothes chest] that her aunt Margaret had whilst she lived".

Elizabeth -  married Jeremy Harding of Hartford, Huntingdonshire in 1563.  She had a number of children by him.  Jeremy  died in 1568 and by 1570 or so she was the wife of Richard Cannon by whom she had a gigantic family, many of whom lived to marry.

The above was pretty much the summary of what I had until 2024.  then, by chance Barry Ginn a regular correspondent discovered a court case and I began to dig further.

Jeremy Harding came from an old (back to the 1400s) yeoman family in Hartford in Huntingdonshire (near Huntingdon) and how Elizabeth met him is an eternal mystery.  He appears to have died suddenly in 1568 and there is no will that I know of.  I knew from Ginn wills that Elizabeth remarried a Richard Cannon by 1570 and they lived at Hartford, believing logically until 2024 that he was a local man.  He wasn't.  Richard Cannon came from Hoddesdon in the far south of Hertfordshire.  Again, how it worked out that she married him I have absolutely no idea !

But Richard and Liz settled back in Hartford.  Richard styled himself a Gentleman (but he could not write) in part because he had quite a lot of rental income from lands and houses he had retained and rented out in Hoddesdon and Great Amwell in Hertfordshire.  He also had quite a lot of land, much by lease, in Hartford and roundabout and had quite a lot of sheep, cows and a fair number of horses, both working and animals for riding.  I am particularly fond of the mention of the  "old sorrel Nag" that he left Liz when he died.

Richard Cannon died in 1603. His will (as Cannan in Hunts Archives) seems to be the original rather than a Probate copy and runs to 11 pages, more a War and Peace" than a will.

It is apparent from that will that Richard was on very good terms with his wife's Ginn relations in Hertfordshire and in Huntingdon, a relationship obviously kept over decades, as while Liz was his executor "my wyfe's brother Arthur Gynne Yeoman of Hertfordshire" was one Overseer, as was "my cozen William Whittlesey Gentleman" (of Huntingdon - husband of Sarah Ginn his wife's niece).  But although Richard had obviously been stepfather to the Harding children since they were toddlers, they were very much not his, as the third Overseer was "my wyfe's son Thomas Harding".

Liz died in 1613, also leaving a will (under Cannam - Hunts Archives) but sadly not mentioning any Ginns.  But providing invaluable information on her children.  Research on these continues.

The Hardings

Thomas - was the eldest.  He was described as a Yeoman in the Court case of 1596 (see post of    ).  He had borrowed money off of his uncle Robert Ginn of Wyton in Hunts.  He married Eleanor/Ellen Lovell in 1592.  He was alive 1613 and living in Hartford

Henry - died in infancy

Elizabeth - was alive in 1613 (about 45) as the wife of a chap with the surname Fielding.  I cannot trace her.

The Cannons

Susan - was born in 1571.  She married a George Sandifer.  This is a rare name but not so much around Huntingdon.  She had a daughter Elizabeth who like Susan was alive in 1613.  George had died.  Not traced

Richard the elder - born in 1572.  The heir.  He married Margaret Mott in 1601.  A Gentleman.  Both he and his wife were alive and of Hartford in 1613.  Liz Cannon left Marge some household items.  Being researched

Thomas - born 1573.  He was alive in 1603 but dead by 1613.  I cannot trace him at present.

Frances - she was born in 1574 and married Matthew Rooke in 1598.  She was dead by 1613.

Ann - 1576.  Dead by 1613

John - 1577 - he married Alice Robbins in 1606.  Alive 1613.  Being researched

Arthur - we have no date for him but likely about 1580.  He is untraced.  He was alive in 1613.  Obviously named after Liz's bro.

Bridget - 1581 - she married Thomas Whiles in 1601.  She was alive 1613.

Richard the younger.  There were two.  The family followed the custom of having two children of the same name to ensure the Christian name lived on.  The first "the younger" was born in 1585 and died infancy.  The second was born in 1586 and was alive and mentioned in his father's will of 1603.  But he was dead by 1613.  Being researched.


Frances -  married ______ Fordham.  I have not traced her

Arthur - married Mary Pakeman and founded "Arthur Ginn's Charity" which still exists !  See post of 21st May 2014

Sarah  - married Robert Collin of Beauchamp Roding in Essex at Anstey in 1576.  His was a major yeomen family and he had some gentry cousins with a coat of arms.  They had a number of children, Arthur, Thomas, Robert, Sarah and Joan.  None of the baptism records survive, so this is important for Collin researchers.

Robert Collin's ancestry in the Rodings in Essex was very old, his father was Stephen, his grandfather John.  They were cousins of the Ayletts of Leaden Roding and it was clearly Sarah who introduced her nephew Henry Ginn to Judith Aylett of Leaden Roding - see post of 20th July 2012.

Robert Collin died in 1590, likely in his early 40s and Sarah remarried someone with the surname Mead or Wright



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