Your monument shall be my gentle verse
That eyes not yet created shall o'er read
And tongues to be, your being, shall rehearse
When all the breathers of your world are dead
You still shall live, such virtue hath my pen
Where breath most breathes - in mouths of men

William Shakespeare (1564-1616)

Saturday, 7 July 2012

Robert Ginn of Wyton d. 1596

Robert Ginn here was the second son of the Robert Ginn of Anstey (d. 1587) mentioned in my post of 25th June 2012.  He moved from Hertfordshire and via his two sons established the Ginn families of Huntingdon and Ely.

In 1559, one year after Queen Elizabeth the 1st took the throne, Robert married Elizabeth Cooke at Anstey and they had four children there, the couple moving quite some distance to Wyton and Houghton, near to Huntingdon, in about 1570.  The relocation almost certainly resulted from the influence/connections of Robert's sister Elizabeth who had been living in neighbouring Hartford in Huntingdonshire since 1563.  There s some question that Elizabeth Cooke came from the Cooke family of Great Chishill in Essex,  just over the border.

His move is documented in various Certificates of Residence (for the purpose of the Lay Subsidy - I reproduce one here) and in the court case between the Ginn and the King families of the 1580s where he is named as a "Yeoman of Wyton"



The place to which he moved is actually known as Wyton cum Houghton, oddly one village, one manor but two churches.  It was and is effectively one village spread out in two hamlets on the one road.

                 John Speed's map drawn in 1607 which shows the area

Unfortunately, the parish registers for neither Wyton or Houghton have survived for this period and there do not appear to be Bishop's Transcripts. This made it impossible to know what children were born after he and Elizabeth arrived and led to speculation.  It was not thought that any records survived that might show what was happening in Wyton cum Houghton and research pretty much stalled in 1992.

Then in 2020 I received a shock, because better indexing of surviving records online meant that I discovered that Hunts Archives had at least some records of the manor from 1587 until Robert's death. 

Robert Ginn owned land in both Wyton and Houghton, and clearly, also elsewhere locally in Hunts but also retaining a little land in Anstey (after his father's death) which led to the Certificates of Residence as he was potentially liable to pay tax on lands in two counties.

                                             Wyton church

By the 1570s certainly, Robert had also acquired lands in neighbouring St Ives  and in the 1580s  he was involved in a legal dispute with a Charity Marbury (or her now husband) concerning the "White Horse Inn" at St Ives which Robert had purchased, demolished and sold off the glass, a valuable commodity at that time.   Robert described himself in the court case as a relative newcomer to the county.

There are various entries for Robert in the Houghton and Wyton manorial court book.  

Robert Ginn died at Wyton in 1596 - he was about 67.  Letters of Administration were granted to Elizabeth (National Archives) with an estate in goods and chattels alone in excess of £500.   An Obitus for Robert was entered in the Manor Court Book - Elizabeth took his land under widow's rights, but immediately transferred it to Robert jnr. See below.  There was also a court case, this unknown until 2024. In the Court of Common Pleas in Westminster Hall in London.  Robert had lent money to his nephew Thomas Harding (son of his sister Elizabeth - see post of 25th June 2012) of Hartford in Hunts nearby.  And also to another nephew - Robert Ginn of Anstey.  It shows how intertwined all the lives were, even after Robert had left Anstey in 1570.




Elizabeth was finally traced in 2020, she went to live in Huntingdon after her husband died, living either with her daughter Sarah or son Thomas, she died in Huntingdon in 1606, aged about 75 I would say.

Robert and Elizabeth had a number of children:

Robert - the heir who went to Ely - see later post

Thomas - who died in Huntingdon - see later post

Sarah - was known to have married someone with the surname Whittlesey, pretty much at the start of my research in 1991.  The only way I knew this was through the will of her brother Thomas.  Sarah was alive in 1636 aged 75.

I never expected to find out any more, and then in 2020  - I discovered whom she married, she married William Whittlesey of Huntingdon, St Marys in about 1596, almost certainly just after her father died and she was likely allocated her marriage portion.  They had  four children, William 1597, Ann 1598, Elizabeth 1599 and Barbara 1603.  In 1603 Sarah was 42 and Barbara was her last child.

William Whittlesey/Wittlesey jnr was friendly with his uncle Thomas Ginn gent, a Burgess and Alderman of Huntingdon - see post of  4th September 2012.   William is mentioned in Tom's will and was a witness to a deed of 1623 involving Tom -- see below


In the will of Richard Cannon of Hertford of 1603, William Whittesey's nephew in law via Richard's marriage to Elizabeth Ginn, William snr was referred to as a Gentleman, he died in 1617.

William Whittlesey jnr married circa 1622 and had four children, Jane 1624,William 1627, Alice 1629 and Arthur 1631.  They continued to live in Huntingdon until 1631, but thereafter I cannot trace them. Jnr was obviously alive in 1636

Arthur - one of whom died in infancy in 1569. Another, "son of Robert" (it can only be this man) is mentioned in Anstey records in the Hertfordshire Muster records for the late 1580s. I have always though Bob returned to Anstey briefly after his father died in 1587, likely to mind his lands. Arthur would have been about 17.  No further record has been found of him and he is not mentioned in his bro Tom's will - so I have assumed died young.

John -  John was buried at St Ives in 1573 in infancy.

Henry - was unknown to me - a total shock in fact - when discovered in 2020. The only record I have of him dates to 1595 - he would have been in his early 20s.  He took a house and land in Houghton and Wyton called "The Pepper Yard"  - but immediately transferred it to Dad.  See below.  If you made it to your 20s (difficult) at this time, you had a fair chance of making it to your 40s.  He is not mentioned in brother Tom's will but may have been estranged from him.  I hope that he lived on and turns up again. He may, just may be the father of Robert Ginn of Barham (not far from Huntingdon) who is in the Protestation Return for Huntingdon of 1641 and who in turn may well be the ancestor of the Ginn family of Southoe and Eynesbury (see my blog Ginn genealogical gleanings online) all speculation on my part !




Mary - I cannot know from direct evidence (baptisms) of children born after 1570 as none survive.  I rely on secondary sources.  There is some question that a  Mary was born to this couple who married a Thomas Bownest in London (likely her cousin) in 1614.  See post of 10th June 2023


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