David Gynn of Stratford and Buckinhamshire died 1883

 David Gynn jnr here was son of  David Ginn/Gynn snr mentioned in my post of  16th November 2014.  He adopted the spelling Gynn as had his father.  In 1842 he married Mary Perridge at Hackney. I confess I know more of their children than of this couple.

By 1846 he had become a Coachman and the couple were living in Shoreditch, but David had other ambitions and shortly afterwards he set himself up as a Pork Butcher in Church Row in Stratford, West Ham next to  "The Angel" Public House.  This was a substantial pub built in 1838 (the brewers were Charringtons) which was rebuilt in 1910 as below (the pub like so many has now gone)

David had retired to Buckinghamshire by 1881 and died in Romford district in 1883.  Mary died in Wandsworth district in 1908 aged 76.

The couple had some eight children and there are some interesting stories here

Sarah -  married John Quye at West Ham in 1866

Mary - married Henry Mason at West Ham  in 1868

David - this part of the post is not suitable for vegetarians, so if you are one please look away - now.

David married Julia Avard at West Ham (they lived in Stratford) in 1873 and Dave took up his father's occupation as a Butcher, his father had likely given him some early training, this was a more skilled occupation than might be thought.

By 1878 (Trade Directories) David had set himself up on his own account with a shop at 35 Chapel Street in Stratford, near the High Street. Much of this area was obliterated by German bombs in the Blitz of 1940, but we can see (below) Chapel Street in 1910.  It was a quiet day (note the steamroller) as the road was obviously being resurfaced

Normally the road would have reflected the throng of people in the nearby High Street, shown below in 1906

When I was a boy, in the 1960s.butcher's shops were still pretty much what they were in David Gynn's day - carcasses hanging inside the shop and out, sawdust on the floor and portly butchers in long aprons, sharpening knives  and hefting heavy cleavers for lamb and pork chops.  I used to peer over the counter with grisly fascination, face to face with the pig's heads that sat there.  So it was with Dave.

But David was perhaps not the hearty butcher we think of and my suspicion is that he was unwell at an early age, as there were only two children and he died, likely of consumption in 1885, aged just 34.  Julia lived on beyond 1901 having never remarried, but the Trade Directories show that the shop was sold shortly afterwards.

Edward - some of the broader "Farnham" Ginn family were a bit like Bilbo Baggins in the Lord of the Rings stories, they occasionally went on adventures - journeyed "there and back again" as the story goes.  Ted was one of those - though he never fought a Dragon.

In the 1871 census Edward is given as a journeyman baker.  Then he disappeared.  In 2009, it was discovered than an E. Gynn from West Ham, a baker, went out to Sydney, Australia on the "Star of India" in 1876.  He was an unassisted immigrant.

Now the "Star of India" to my amazement survives.  She was built in 1863, but is still by some miracle seaworthy and is in San Diego in California in a Maritime Museum- see below.  A wonderful ship.

 I knew that Edward had returned to England, but it was not until 2022 that I found out part of what happened before he did.  My friend Jennifer Clark(nee Ginn) in New Zealand and not too distant cousin of his "turned him up" on the Trove (Australian Newspapers) website.  Ted joined the New South Wales Artillery in Sydney upon his arrival, but things did not work out as in 1880 he deserted.  See below

I had already discovered that he had returned to England in the early 1880s, now we know why. The guy went around the world - he came back into Britain via a ship from New York !

You might have thought that he had learned his lesson and would find another occupation (perhaps he could not), but in May 1886 he joined the Royal Artillery over here ! He took a risk that the record would be linked and he would be arrested - but partially to offset this he claimed to be a good deal younger than he was.

Edward Gynn married Sarah Jones at Mile End in 1890.  They had a number of children.  Ted left the army in 1898 and in 1901 the couple were back in Stratford in West Ham (where the story started) with Ted as a carman - ie he drove a cart.  He died in Surrey in 1942 - he had lived a long life.

Joseph - originally this guy was helping out Dad and was a Butcher in 1881 having married Mary Ann Newman in 1878.  Then after his father's death he joined the Merchant Navy as a Cook ans sailed the London - Australia route.  The family had a number of children, but Joe was obviously away a lot and although there is some evidence that in for a short while all of the family were in Australia, Mary quite clearly seems to have returned with the children and Jos stayed in Australia.  So they separated, whether divorced is unclear.  Joe's brother (see below) had also settled in Australia, and it is likely the brothers lived together for a time.

In 1905, Joe is mentioned as a "Land Cook" as opposed to a "Sea Cook"( who was also in an article) in the "Australian Star" - the two of them went to the Hunters Hotel" in Sydney for drinks where an alleged crime took place.  At some point he moved to Gosford on the Coast  which has stunning sea views and died there in 1934 with a short announcement of his death in the Sydney Morning Herald.

William - for reasons best known his himself (it may have been a middle name) this guy called himself Richard.  It is definitely the same man,  He joined the Merchant Navy, was a cook and sailed the London-Sydney Australia with his brother. He never married.  He also settled in Australia and died there in 1913 of peritonitis.

John - was alive in 1861 but not traced in 1871 - so likely died young

Jane - married George Illett in 1905